I know one thing for sure and that is I'm a believer in the "linear comps": the Spike's barking spider II instantly changed my 10.5" 5.56 pistol from unpleasant to awesome. I tesred with and without ear pro. 17% Off. Thanks OP I'd never heard of this before your post. Both advertise as directing the concussion blast downrange. I have an AR Pistol (5.56, 10.3" barrel) I love it but it is LOUD! For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. - Bren. I'm aware of advertising of reduction of Shockwave toward the shooter, reduction of recoil impulse, and slight sound reduction for shooter and lateral persons to the shooter on both devices. The device is supposed to send all the noise from a shot forward, so it isn't as loud for the shooter. Witt Machine SME Slimline - Sound Testing with 9mm, .300 Blackout, and .308 Subsonic - Hearing Safe? Muzzle Rise Eliminator .223/5.56 Muzzle Brake and a MIC-COMP-223 MICULEK COMPENSATOR. I specialize in High value options for your everyday Joe \u0026 Jane in the recreational scene. Press J to jump to the feed. I like its size and weight, or really the lack of. Take 20% Off On Sme Sound Mitigation Equipment Slimline. I tried to stop him, but he wouldn't listen. I do not endorse any specific product and this video is not an attempt to sell you a good or service. I don't know much about muzzle devices, but am learning. Would I shoot without hearing protection: absolutely not. Take 20% Off On Custom Clamp-On Threaded Adapter. All work on firearms should be carried out by a licensed individual and all state and federal rules apply to such. St. Peters, MO 63376, Mr. Shush of Witt Machine comes to hang out at our undisclosed shooting location to show me and Alex, DynaDeath Milberg, their new SME or Sound Mitigation Equipment, how much sound does it mitigate us ask? If your application calls for a compact (A2 sized) solution; the BRT Linear Comp is a good choice. When the unit is assembled it allows for complete control of dynamic recoil forces while keeping the pressure wave from the shot, downrange. Re: Witt Machine SME Slimline. How the heck is it not a "muffler"?! SME Sound Mitigation Equipment Slimline $ 175.00 Colors: Graphite Black or Flat Dark Earth Calibers: 5.56 .30 Cal, 6.5, 9mm and 45 Thread Patterns: 1/2-28 and 5/8-24 ONLY Length: 4 The Slimline shroud has a diameter of 1 1/4inch and weighs 7.9oz with the brake. NWI INDIANA GUN OWNERS. If it helps estimate your order, I ordered mine on 7/13 and it shipped on 8/20. After a full fun switch run of 5.56 I could hear just fine Siglockncolt, 4110 I-70 North Outer Road Such a practice is heavily regulated and subject to applicable laws. JavaScript is disabled. Check out. Stepped my son up from 90gr 243 to 150gr 7mm. AR15.Com reserves the right to overwrite or replace any affiliate, commercial, or monetizable links, posted by users, with our own. Posted: 7/20/2020 12:32:16 PM EST [#10] . Using electronic ears :-(. Got the 30 caliber light version on order for a bolt action blackout. This comment is an attempt to control posts made by a new type of spam bot. 17.76% Off Storewide No Code Needed! Witt Machine SME Slimline - Rifle Calibers $175.00 The SME is a highly effective Linear Comp/Blast Can that allows for excellent shot to shot recovery & incorporates an external shroud that reduces lateral auditory reports. Sound Mitigation Equipment is another term for "suppressor" which are prohibited. Thanks! Sound Mitigation Equipment Standard. Nearly half a pound added to your rifle/pistol. I deer hunt without ear pro, but I'm not blasting away either. by Pneumatix on desktop and mobile. Does anybody have a recommendation for a blast can/flash can to compare to a Witt SME? . These devices just throw the sound and fury downrange. https://www.indianagunowners.com/threads/classifieds-new-online-payment-guidelines-rules-paypal-venmo-zelle-etc.511734/, https://www.wittmachine.net/sme-sound-mitigation-equipment-lightweight-non-cla/, Kineti-Tech ZERO RECOIL Muzzle Brake with 13/16 X 16 threaded Sleeve. *Must have a registered ARFCOM account to win. Post author: DomedBySomeAnt. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. Rule 1- ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED. Maybe I need to buy a bunch of devices and barrels lol. www.wittmachine.net. 1st test make sure. It may not display this or other websites correctly. my LeVang works well perceived noise on par with my DIY flash cans little re-ignition of volatile gases compared to a flash can with my 10.3 MK18 I get no shooter noticeable muzzle flash with SMK69s and H322, Whats your price range? Deal. The Kaw Valley and other devices mentioned are all nice. I don't really hear a difference between the shots before and after Jerry puts the can on the brake. I want to get some firsthand experience before I shell out $175.00 SME- Sound Mitigation Equipment - non class III If I were to get an SME, would I be significantly better off compared to buying a blast can? Bob Wright. I've not used one of those (and at the price won't try one), but have used a linear compensator (similar idea) on a 16.1" 223. They call it SME (Sound Mitigation Equipment) from Witt Machine. I assume similar to other linear comps but this one seems extra long. #24 Lets face it we all love to shoot and eat, Buy, sell, and trade in the classified section, Chat with Local gun shops, ranges, trainers & other businesses, View up to date on firearm-related events. Probably a limitation of microphone captured audio. I like that idea. I've got a Kaw Valley on my 12.5 6.8 and a Noveske Pig on mine and the wifes 5.56 10.5. Without a DB and SPL meter at the shooters head- the video is worthless. If you are a human, you can ignore it. The Witt Machine SME just arrived for me. Manufacturer of High-Quality Firearms, Suppressors and Firearm Accessories. Merry Christmas to me. It's not a suppressor because it does not reduce the overall noise signature, merely directs a large amount of it down range. Well Ill stay back until I hear more. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. At Witt Machine we make gun parts that work better for less. Either it doesn't do anything, or it is class III. However, depending on what you're putting them on, you can get massive fireballs with them, people will not like shooting around you (like using a brake), and typically . [ARCHIVED THREAD] - 22lr barrel extension. Ive asked that question numerous times. I see on the description pages for blast cans that they're for AR pistols and similar situations. My dad recently fired his full length AR in .223 Rem unprotected for the first time. I have a Witt SME on a 5.56, 7.5 piston pistol. Copyright 1996-2023 AR15.COM LLC. Well I don't see how the atf would not regard that as a suppressor, it is my understanding that ANYTHING that lowers the decibel reading of a firearm they consider a suppressor, I may be mistaken, would not want to find out in court. The brake itself is machined from a single piece of 416 stainless and is tuned for efficiency without unnecessary weight. Without the Witt, blast was intense and ears hurt on first shot. SME- Sound Mitigation Equipment - non class III. I am not a gun shop and DO NOT sell or deal in Firearms. 118 Avenue B SW Our non NFA SME muzzle devices are revolutionary in recoil management and protecting your hearing. MUZZLE RISE ELIMINATOR B B n .2235.56 MUZZLE BRAKE Made rifle light and super manageable (to check a missing area in my own gun safe). Whats the difference between that and a bare barrel? I don't know about the one in the OP, but we have put these on several builds. Hard to tell how well it works on the video but everyone seems impressed with it. Posted: 8/31/2020 9:56:34 PM EST . Farther behind the gun is much, much . CUSTOM CLAMP-ON Sy % MUZZLE BRAKE Sarah Gagestein & Jolijn Mes Word meesterframer (De complete handleiding framing voor iedereen die iedereen wil overtuigen) 2:06 1.92 MB I DO NOT sell parts, magazines, or firearms. Testing Witt Machine & Tool Co. Sound Mitigation Equipment (slimline non-class 3) on a Vudoo barreled action in a MPA Hybrid chassis. Stream Bucharest Tekno Unit 045 Mix (27.01.2023) .Free Download! I have a KAK slimline flash can on my 20 inch AR in 6.5 grendel. Did you end up getting it? SME- Sound Mitigation Equipment - non class III Manufacturer of High-Quality Firearms, Suppressors and Firearm Accessories. I don't know how well it works to reduce noise because I have never shot it without the can, but I can tell you that it is quieter than an unsuppressed 16inch 5.56 with no muzzle device. They sent black when I ordered FDE, so I sent them yet another email, but I don't ever expect to get one of the right color since they are next to impossible to get in touch with. 20% Off. Indiana Gun Owners is the most active and largest Indiana gun community online. If it did indeed have sound suppression features it still would be illegal in CA and ATF would classify it as such eventually. Has anyone tried a SME as it's not class 3 suppressed . Subscribe to our monthly Newsletter to receive firearm news, product discounts from your favorite Industry Partners, and more. You must log in or register to reply here. Discover inspiration, deals and sales from the brands you love. PTP Tactical Senior Chief .30 Cal Suppressor. read some very good reviews, swapping out an A2 for it. Just finish building my first pistol,10.5 psa kit. I got shipment notification from Witt Machine on Sunday, but there's been no movement in the tracking so far. Nicely done, sir. However, the rearward/side concussion of this compensator, yeesh! [ARCHIVED THREAD] - recommendation for a linear comp, https://www.kawvalleyprecision.com/KVP-Linear-Compensator-p/kvp-linear-blk.htm. - Kineti-Tech, https://www.kakindustry.com/kak-industry-flash-can, https://www.primaryarms.com/noveske-kx5-flaming-pig-flash-suppressor-slim-1-2x28-nvkx5-12x28. I have 2 Bear Creek Arsenal (BCA) uppers, a Palmetto State Armory(PSA) \"big boy\" upper and 2 custom uppers. MUZZLE RISE ELIMINATOR .30 CAL MUZZLE BRAKE Our boys Jacks and RW placing the SME Sound Mitigation Equipment Slimline to the test from www.wittmachine.com to order yours We couldn't have done this without www.primaryarms.com amazing SLx. The brake itself is machined from a single piece of 416 stainless and is tuned for efficiency without unnecessary weight. Putting the fun in funeral and laughter in manslaughter. A forum community dedicated to Ruger firearm owners and enthusiasts. Hopefully it will work. . Join Our Email List I'm feeling fairly certain it is not legal in CA but interested to hear theoretical opinions. What do ou guys recommend? My buddy has it on a shorty and it does make a difference. Feb 18, 2020. Whats the difference between that and a bare barrel? Havnt tried it but i was surpised to find that its 4 inches. Anybody use one of these? .300 Blackout in both 200 grain and 220 grain subsonic ammo in my ACR was better than 9mm but still loud, sounded like a firecracker. You must log in or register to reply here. Our non NFA SME muzzle devices are revolutionary in recoil management and protecting your hearing. The device is supposed to send all the noise from a shot forward, so it isn't as loud for the shooter. I am going to try the Witt Machine SME. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. - C.S. Hopefully be able to get it on and try it out this week. How do these sound re-directors do as far as muzzle flash? The SME is a muzzle break with a tube screwed on it. The shooter perceived sound at about 15dB, which is a lot considering dB is a logarithmic scale. From my understanding it isn't a surpressor. I'm thinking about putting one on a 7.5" 5.56 pistol. KAK and the flaming pig seem like popular choice. Give a communist a helicopter ride, he flies for an afternoon. I paid $165 for mine delivered using the coupon code \"TacShit2020\" for 15% off.The muzzle brake works amazing at what it is designed to do, reduce recoil. Put an end cap on and it starts getting a little quieter and you get the supersonic crack down range. It's a sound director - it's just longer and not sealed - so it bypasses the suppression legal requirements. Ive tried several of them on my pistol builds. From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm. Shop. I'm excited. 118 Avenue B SW Childress, TX 79201 Text-only version of this email I have one on order, but I'm not sure if it's a scam or not. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. From what I understand it doesn't muffle the sound, it just directs it away from the shooter. Apr 14, 2021. [#7] RTB has 9" barrels on sale off $139. Check out http://bit.ly/WittMachine for more info, and to get YOUR HAND on your VERY OWN SME. I'm interested in this as well. Even with a KAK flashcan. Would I shoot without hearing protection: absolutely not. Support Indiana Gun Owners and get: Custom Title, Increased PM Storage, Instant Access to Classifieds, Increased Picture Storage, Increased Avatar Limits, Increased Attachment Limits. I use both a Witt. .css-1w632qo{font-weight:500;}Witt Machine sent this email to their subscribers on July 9, 2022. Interesting..buy one & make a report. HREADS -1 58 INCH DIAMETER I went with one of the $40 1/2x28 barrel extensions off ebay for a similar situation. Come join the discussion about optics, hunting, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! Also please correct me if I'm incorrect in my explanation of my premise. Once again I have a day where I learn something, thanks to all who added more information, these do not appear to suppress only redirect, my bad. The 22lr subs sounded like a high powered air rifle. Funny Political Picture/Video Thread Part VIII** The other side makes this way too easy! Then I guess I'll be waiting for several months, oh well. Looks like a real close fit to the MD, which might act as baffles, but I'm no expert. Both advertise as directing the concussion blast downrange. I do have a brake and was looking for more info as nothing has showed up on youtube yet. Since we have a new product and a niche product. Manufacturer of High-Quality Firearms, Suppressors and Firearm Accessories. If you do this in a small confined area, it's like not having any device at all. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Its not something I would spend $175 on. In this product linked here is a muzzle brake that's the standard 1/2 x 28; however, it was external threading that is 13/16x16 which happens to be the same threading as an automotive part. Sound Mitigation Equipment Standard. (basic term). They do not suppress the blast but it sure sounds like it to the shooter. for more info, and to get YOUR HAND on your VERY OWN SME. The three port design keeps the brake short, while allowing for an extremely high level of efficiency. Second Media Corp., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. Witt Machine Proudly Manurfacturing Freedom in Texas. Anything you put on a barrel will change the sound even a longer barrel will change it, so changing the sound in itself is not illegal. Less sound towards the shooter! The three port design keeps the brake short, while allowing for an extremely high level of efficiency.The outer shroud of the SME Slimline is made of the same rugged 416 stainless that the brake is milled from. Main reason for buying SME A slight bit more weight to balance the rifle out. Centerfire Rifles - Semiautomatic or Gas Operated, https://www.wittmachine.net/sme-soun-25007929.html, https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1003406859/, Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. I think I'll buy both a high quality flash can and a Witt SME and do a side-by-side comparison. As per Section 84 (1) if you don't hold a license authorizing its possession, it's prohibited. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. Thanks for info, that is what I'm looking for. My Great Great Grandpa died fighting for the CSA. Be sure to check out our gun classifieds where you can buy, sell or trade your gear. Come join the discussion about optics, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, troubleshooting, accessories, classifieds, and more! Yeah I've thought about taking that plunge. Just waiting for it to arrive. But it also has baffles. They do not suppress the blast but it sure sounds like it to the shooter. The extra 4 inches of barrel could account for the quieter firing or any of the other benefits attributed to the muzzle devices. Behind the gun is much better. Id get one if I had access to a 20 percent discount. Does the muzzle brake base have an influence on the effect of a blast can? __________________. Very generous of you to offer that to the OP! Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited. - YouTube 0:00 / 22:59 Witt Machine SME Slimline - Sound Testing with 9mm, .300. I have a 11.5 fsb barrel, didnt want to negate the short barrel by getting a 3 or bigger comp. Just got my SME. Legal, as they midigate the sound forward away from the shooter, not lower the db. Thanks for the info though. Remember to use code TacShit2020 @ check out for 15% off STORE WIDE! Pardon my ignorance if you will, but what differentiates this from a suppressor? Witt Machine Co. recently released a device called a 'sound mitigator' or SME, which is essentially a muzzle brake with a blast can that screws on like a QD suppressor. It's hard to find any of the answers to my questions on a search engine. I gotta say guys, it's legit. $175.00. The last caliber tested was .308 subsonic ammunition in my 16\" AR-10, because the ammo doesn't cycle the action in the AR-10 it was the quietest of the bunch and was completely fine at the shooters ear.If you have a bolt action with a threaded barrel and subsonic ammunition that would be an excellent use for the Witt Machine SMELet me know what you guys think of it!Good testing Video with DB Meter: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdUIvTmvzww\u0026t=33s10.5\" .300 Blackout 220 Grain (semi Auto)Shooters Ear: 130DB - 133DB16\" 5.56 55 Grain (Semi Auto)Shooters Ear: 135-140DB(not my numbers, see video link above)Witt Machine Description:The SME is a highly effective Linear Comp/Blast Can that allows for excellent shot to shot recovery \u0026 incorporates an external shroud that reduces lateral auditory reports. Download. Check out http://bit.ly/WittMachine for more info, and to get YOUR HAND on your VERY OWN SME. Q 4" OVEMLL LENCTH .30 CAL 58-24 THREADING ST IV Y 3y 13.9 OUNCES Made in the USA too. I do some shooting indoors, but I'm mostly an outdoor shooter looking to find a way to quiet my gun down for myself and others nearby without the back pressure of a suppressor (and the bureaucracy). Are they not particularly useful on 16" AR barrels chambered in .223 Wylde? I can't wait for it to come in. Well that guy is stupid. PTP Tactical's Master Chief and Senior Chief 30 caliber suppressors are fully . I would consider one if it works and doesnt get whacked by the BATF price is doable considering the price of a suppressor. Fair Use: In the rare instance I include someone elses footage it is covered in Fair Use for Documentary and Educational purposes with intention of driving commentary and allowing freedom of speech. That is great. Even a AR with a real suppressor is too loud to use without hearing protection. Hoofdstuk 3.13 - Word meesterframer. So, yes, for the pedants out there this is a flash hiding test Witt Machine had a black Friday sale on some of their items. - Thomas Jefferson. I like the idea of one of these but they are HEAVY! Offers Available. AK47 SME SOUND MITIGATION 2 il EQUIPMENT SLIMLINE I bet it would work really good on a 22lr rifle or even a 22lr pistol like the TX22. Find great deals and sell your items for free. Copyright 2000-2023 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved. Witt Machine Co. recently released a device called a 'sound mitigator' or SME, which is essentially a muzzle brake with a blast can that screws on like a QD suppressor. If this is the next bump stock Im not interested. Don't want to be that guy at the range and unfortunately suppressor is not a option. A place for responsible gun owners and enthusiasts to talk about guns without the politics. The BRT Covert Comp most closely resembles an A2, and it's shorter than the Kaw Valley. Deal. Overall Length: 4" Shop All What Our Customers Say I'm still new to the world of muzzle devices. I have a sound forwarding device I use on my TX22 and it cuts the sharpness of the report way down. It may not display this or other websites correctly. $825.00. No amount of recoil bothers him, just noise typically double ears at the range and even prefers when taking hunting shots. Litchfield Park, Az. By viewing or flagging this video you are acknowledging the above. All Rights Reserved. It helps people around you on the line from wanting to kill you by directing the concussion forward as opposed to the side/rear like most brakes. Are you getting your hands on a dB meter with a fast enough sample rate and high enough maximum to catch and properly quantify the sound of a gunshot? I bet they are getting a lot of chargebacks, which sucks as a vendor. I think youre referring to a blast diverter, pretty common in the AR pistols. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns. CLAMP-ON B g SHOTGUN BRAKE Not sure if this has been brought up before but I haven't seen them. Watch and Find Out! Who even knows what calibration and equipment they were using. What I can say about them is that they are not concussive, like a brake; but that whole thing about throwing the noise down range is BS. I would not hesitate to shoot without earpro with the Witt installed, IF I HAD TO. Ultra Compact Fighting Suppressors All 17.76% Off Storewide! 3.9 INCHES LONGC -118 INCH IN DIAMETER Get Discount. Sme Sound Mitigation Equipment Slimline at $175--Canooter Valve Suppressor As Low As $260--AK47 Sme Sound Mitigation Equipment at $175--Never miss a deal from Witt Machine! 45 IS ONLY AVAILABLE IN 5/8-24!! Has anyone shot a AR with this device attached or have any firsthand knowledge. I'll give some feedback on sound mitigation and performance once I get it to the range. Muzzle rise has been optimized, with gas vented at an angle then forward. Yes, linear comps do that, and this SME thing is trying to be a linear comp. www.wittmachine.net I have an SJC on the 5.56 and the barrel hardly moves. The SME is a highly effective Linear Comp/Blast Can that allows for excellent shot to shot recovery Add to Cart. The tacfireones are good and cheap. The SME was way quieter, but the price is not worth it to most of us bc we all wear good headsets and some use plugs AND headsets when using comps. Witt Machine SME Sound Mitigation Equipment Slimline (5.56) 1/2-28 Thread. Replaced his "Flash hider" ??? Outdoor Hub, LLC (d/b/a Carbon Media Group), 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. I think they work ok for the shooter, kind of like a brake that will reduce sound for the shooter, alter recoil, and direct sound in different directions. PS: I am not a pro, keep that in mind.Twitter: Focustripp (Only post new video Links)If you read all of this I hope you have a Wonderful Day Filthy AnimalsDisclaimer: These videos are strictly for educational and entertainment purposes only. I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. 18% Off. Our non NFA SME muzzle devices are revolutionary in one of my Glock barrels was too short, but it works on the rest, great for carbines i saw they just made an ak47 one too . I was skeptical at first, but it makes a significant difference in noise and concussion shock wave to the shooter or anyone behind. Its still loud and the person standing next to you is still going to hate you, maybe just not as much because only their ears will be hurting, but they wont feel like they just got punched in the face too. Its not much bigger than an A2, weighs about the same. Still loud as hell. We (including YouTube) will not be held liable for any injury to yourself or damage to your firearms resulting from attempting anything shown in any our videos. Posted: 9/9/2020 12:03:12 PM EST . 20% Off Discount at Witt Machine. The SME is a highly effective Linear Comp/Blast Can that allows for excellent shot to shot recovery & incorporates an external shroud that reduces lateral auditory reports. JavaScript is disabled. Doesnt actually sound like it if it just directs sound, well see A forum community dedicated to Glock firearm owners and enthusiasts. Mr. Shush of Witt Machine comes to hang out at our undisclosed shooting location to show me and Alex, DynaDeath Milberg, their new SME or Sound Mitigation Equipment, how much sound does it mitigate us ask? 4 YT oA AT -AVAILABLE IN 58-24 Y "16-24 70 3 NI 3 The SME is a highly effective Linear Comp/Blast Can that allows for excellent shot to shot recovery & incorporates an external shroud that reduces lateral auditory reports. e2. We tested the Witt Machine SME (Sound Mitigation Equipment) with high end decibel meter and found that the SME reduces the sound at the shooters ears to nearly hearing safe levels while still being just as load as any other at the muzzle. Anyone else have one of these that can talk me out of buying one? y OVEMLL LENCTH -9MM 12-28 OR 58-24 THREADINC -1 58 DIAMETER -13.8 OUNCES One new winner* is announced every week! If I don't hit them I scare them to death or make them deafCooooooL!! f you just want to make shooting a shorty less unpleasant, just go with an A2 and save yourself some money. it's loud and the blast is nutty but it works. 18% Off On Custom Clamp-On Threaded Adapter. Ruined his whole night. 17.76% Off Storewide No Code Needed! Video of guy doing a mag dump from a 10.5" AR with no ear pro. You are using an out of date browser. Download. The SME takes the concussive blast away.
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