To Monza and shuttle bus, or too Biassano and walk to prima variante. There is plenty of parking at the Monza racing circuit, but you will need to buy a parking permit and these are not cheap. These are all good grandstands, but if I had to choose, I would take 8b. Very useful! But I guess we will have to wait until a few weeks before the race before the details of shuttle buses are confirmed. There were no known screens to even watch for GA tickets even in the fan zone. Well travel from Milano. HI, can anyone provide any information about camping near track? And, what is the best recommended time to be on Monza station to reach Grandstand 23A calmly? Im surprised because 11 is the race. Hi Despina, I will be updating this page very soon! But I would personally buy in advance, save you having to line up. Just to say the two links, http://www.monzanet.it/en/formula1/3125/F1%20minisito%202012_Centri%20accrediti%20en Cz Wojciech, yes theres been some horror stories around the fan experience at the last few races at Monza. Well be travelling from the South / East of the circuit. You dont need a ticket for such a small baby. We are flying into Linate on Friday and are departing Sunday 19:15. I looked at maps on my phone, and noticed that there is Arcore train station less than 3 kms from the Lesmo exit. And also your opinion on the best value for money as well please? Yes, you do have some solutions from Como to Monza, not all over the day direct trains but at least you dont have to arrive until Milan. Merci pour ces information si je pars trs tt le dimanche matin en voiture pour monza, a quelle heure des difficults commencent ? I have stumbles across this site a couple of weeks ago. Also got seats on grandstand 6c. On each of the three days including race day my journey was uninterrupted and the longest traffic queue I was in lasted about 5 minutes due to a flood on the road by the railway line. It still took 40 minutes to go through security, and I was able to reach my seat in seconda variante for the last laps of the F3 sprint race. Just be aware we got the run around asking a few of the staff where to go but if you head to Gate A then you should be able to get someone to point it out. For all other tickets, Monza train station will be better. But in general, if you are going on Friday or Saturday you can check the views. Driving is also worth considering, but the local traffic can get pretty bad on race weekend. The S8 is the last Train that goes to F1-circuit monza in Monza. ive just get tickets to 2020 GP, to general admission. But please make sure you take along some ear protection for your baby, I really dont normally recommend taking such a small child to F1. 1. The registration in English doesnt even work! Also could I kindly ask you to comment whether there is anything to do on Thursday, like autograph session? Thinking also Parabolica 21a. Will we get off at the end of the black line and then walk? Do the shuttles from Monza station operate throughout the GP weekend, Friday 7,30/20,00 Thanks for the info in this site. Weve been looking on TrainLine? If you do drive, you will probably not have a lot of choice in where you park, depending on how you arrive at the circuit. What time is the pitlane walk open and close on Thursday? We are coming to Monza for the first time and mixing with a holiday at Como. Thanks. Serrone (or Orangerie) 1.25 km. Could you share where you had sits on the track and how were they. It will save you having to walk back to Sesto San Giovanni. It seems to be getting close. Maybe also on the shuttle. great website and article. Hi, do you need to buy the tickets for the black shuttle bus online, or can it be purchased in Monza at the bus? Also is it advisable to buy train tickets from the centre of Milan online before I go or to buy them once Im in Italy? The queues to get the train from the circuit back to Milan on the weekend can be long and disorganized. Great website love it. And do you have any tips? Enjoy the race. You can buy a 10 return ticket for travel from any station in Milan to Monza Station on race weekend that also includes a return ticket for the Black Shuttle. Thank you thats a great help, I really appreciate it. Ill be going to Monza this year, and will be taking the train from Milano Centrale to Monza. Thank you! This is a good option if you are sitting at on Seconda Variante (grandstands 9, 10) or Variante Ascari (grandstands 12-20), or planning to watch in the General Admission areas near Lesmo. There are other collection points however, so check your booking. 1st you offer a great service to people going to Monza. Im planning for 2022. Having read the above I decided to purchase the 10 train and black shuttle bus tickets for Saturday and Sunday. Is train to Monza Station the best option? The tolls themselves can take a bit of getting used to; remember to take the white lane/s to pay with cash or a credit card. Direct trains from Milano Greco Pirelli to Monza station. From the Monza station you can take the Black shuttle bus. WHERE TO PARK During the ITALIAN GRAND PRIX it is not possible to access the racetrack with private cars and motorbikes . After that, its a 15-20 minute walk to the inside of Parabolica underpass from Gate A or overpass from Gate G. Good luck and enjoy the Temple of Speed! If you mean your seats are in Grandstand 6, then its going to be approx 20 to the main gate (Gate A) and then another 20-30 mins to your seats. Coming from 8B. It is an amazing atmosphere, people from all over the world enjoying themselves. Do you know how to pre-book car park ticket/get the bus information? Option 1) take the train from Bergamo to Monza station ore 2)take the train from Bergamo to Biassono-Lesmo Parco. http://www.monzanet.it/en/formula1/3125/F1%20minisito%202012_Centri%20accrediti%20en, http://www.monzanet.it/get/3029/2239/mappa%20completa%20+%20legenda%20parcheggi%20+%20tribune%202014.pdf, https://f1destinations.com/trackside-italian-f1-grand-prix/, https://f1destinations.com/where-to-meet-f1-stars-monza-italian-grand-prix/, http://monzabrianza.autoguidovie.it/it/l/orario-monza-brianza/index, join our group for fans going to the race. The on-track schedule is in the Trackside post. Feel free to contact me for suggestions / help (a.ste@me.com), Great website really helpful. 2. Traffic probably at its worst in Monza from 9-11am on race day. (Maybe entrance D?) The fanzone was supposed to be open on Thursday, but doesnt look like it will be now. Trains to Monza Station Trains depart from Milano Centrale, Milano Porto Garibaldi and Sesto San Giovanni train stations for Stazione di Monza on each day of the weekend. Four of us are off to Milan for the first time on 1st September, staying at LaGare Hotel, close to Stazione Centrale. Even on the metro when we had the wrong tickets, he totally helped us along. Do you know if there is any specific bike parking areas close to the circuit? Queued again for drinks and then food. Check the circuit map with the Black shuttle drop off point. Hi there, Otherwise Im sure its possible to find a well-rated shuttle service in Milan. Upon arrival to Monza station, a black shuttle bus service runs on the Fridays 07:30-20:00 . What Gates are open to GA entrants? please some advice for beginners. But, having seen Ferrari/Tifosi mania over the years (which is great to see btw), just one word of warning this year. Is it a recommended seat to take? You need a train for either Monza station (followed by black shuttle) or Biassono-Lesmo (just a walk). I am staying in Milano, close to station Certosa. On the other hand going to the Biassono-Lesmo station someone commented it took them about 40 minutes total to get to the main area and there is no shuttle wait time for that option. Is there any parking space for motorcycles? On this page it says if you take the black shuttles you get dropped off about a 20 min walk to the entrance near the Parabolica. Hi, this Destination Guide is fantastic! Locals are rude and pushing around. However we have heard two reports last night which have potentially big problems for us. Of you could take a taxi from Monza railway station if you are in a hurry and dont want to walk so far. Monza train station is served by suburban train lines S8, S9 and S11. I dont think the service offers wheelchair service or Golf carts (there are grandstands for disable people however), Be prepared that it is not the best organized Gand Prix. My friend and I are coming from Bergamo and have tickets to 8A. The Milano Drivers parade looks awesome. After the race, I joined the track invasion from parabolica, and walked on the track through the main straight until the Lesmo exit again. This one official, near first corner is fully booked. Can you buy open return tickets as online it looks like you need to book a specific time. Required fields are marked *. Check the map and buy parking tickets here. On saturday we missed a train and we had to wait fot 2 hours for the next one. On Thursday the black line shuttle is not available. Taking the train to the circuit is a better idea. Thank you! Hi Rob, good grandstand choice. Going to Monza this year. Not 100& sure, sorry. But you can find more info here (to actually buy parking passes, the site is in Italian only). I dont know much about the train dispute, sorry. We travel by train on each of the days. After F2 qualifying at 7pm on Friday, I rushed to the Lesmo exit to get onto the 7.09pm train from Biassono-Lesmo station, only to find out that I wasnt the only one to have had the same idea, and due to crowd control, I wasnt allowed onto the platform. Hi Paulina, I think you should explore the whole circuit :) Remember on Friday that you can sit in any grandstand you wish, apart from Centrale. I will be coming from Venice by train. I dont know where you are staying, so cant comment if train to Monza station is best for you. Im traveling from Bergamo and my intention at the moment is to take the train to Monza and then the shuttle. And we would definitely go again. I would like to say a big thank you for all the wonderful info. Yes you can buy open return tickets. Hi Omri, you can actually take the train from Lake Como to Monza. You should be able to see some of the action at the second chicane in GA, but it was a few years ago I was last there. Monza train station - than take the bus line Z221 to reach Porta Monza . Do you know which train/bus connection is best?? We are staying near to Milan Centrale station and have tickets for Parabolica. The level of security has destroyed Monza as a venue. Have you any ideas as to how I can get the tickets sooner or when we arrive in Milan 02 Sept. All tickets including local trains, buses etc are now booked. Hi, i will arrive at the Milan AirPort (MPX) at 09:45. Thanks so much Jerome, Ill be updating the post with this information! i have a train from Genoa to Monza, how easy it it to get from Monza train station to the circuit? I would like to give you a feedback of my experience of Monza 2022 regarding transportation which could be useful for the following years. I think the best option is to get the train in Milan and the the shuttle to the autodromo? Hi Tomi! Hi, thanks for the quick reply. Thanks so much! Hi! All in all, it took about an hour to finally cross over and reach the grandstand. A few comments. Do you have any info about the access for wheelchair users? The closest station to our hotel is Centrale. They arent so well organized in Italy! Once you have arrived, seven gates (Ingresso A-G) provide access for fans to the circuit. Thank for all the info on this site. Do you know where that ticket office would be and what time they might open on Sunday? I managed to get weekend tickets for myself and my wife, but well be bringing our 11 month old baby with us. I would leave before 8am. If you are parking near Biassono (to the west) then you need to walk to the circuit. Monza train station is around 5km from the circuit entrance, but you can take the Black Shuttle bus service to get you closer to the circuit. We are planing to be there early, do you think 9am is too late? Is there any chance the train/shuttle service from Milan to Monza will still be running on the Friday? You will need to take a train from MXP to Porto Garibaldi train station in Milan, then a second train to Monza. We remember sharing wine, proscioutto, fresh baked bread and banter with the Tifosi at Della Roggia. Thanks! Return tickets for the Black Shuttle can also be purchased in advance for 6 each day. Im based in Vedano, very close to the main entrance of the circuit, contact me if you need support. Monza train station is in Monza town centre, about 6.6 km from the track. And how to we cross to the inside of the track? I do think you can get in via Gate G. Most other gates should also be open to GA ticket holders. For access gate, best would be Vedano A/B heres the map. My doubt is to stay in Milan or Bergamo/Verona. I have to mention that there was loads of rubbish everywhere and the toilets were disgusting. Yes of course you can walk, it should take around 45 minutes to an hour. Would this make sense for track sections 21D or 8B? Hi Andrew! I have a question about taxi to Bergamo airport after the race. Question; Do trains only leave from the 3 biggist trainstations in Milano or do they also stop at Milano Greco Pirelli. If you are travelling from further afield in Lombardy (outside of Milan), special tickets are also available for 2022. Hi to both of you, to the track: you could ask your hotel about a minibus/van option to take all of you: it will work out pretty cheap when split 6 ways! Make sure you have guarded parking for your hire car, wherever you decide to stay. How much can i trust google maps for getting around from Milano to Monza? Hi. I intend to check out Thursdays proceedings. Journey Duration. Monza railway station is located on Via Enrico Arosio, at the southern edge of the city centre. Good evening. From Monza train station, you can take a shuttle bus to the circuit. tl;dr strange rules ie no power banks / incredible lack of availability to water / tokens in exchange for money, Thanks to this site for all previous advice :), Thanks for your review Adam. Monza is a city and comune on the River Lambro, a tributary of the Po in the Lombardy region of Italy, about 15 km north-northeast of Milan. Many fans then got stranded for almost 2 hours, as the next (and last) train scheduled for 8.09pm was delayed almost 1 hour for technical reasons, and only left after 9pm, and arrived at Porta Garibaldi at 9.45pm. Where to park the car? Do you know where I can buy the ticket for it? Hi Andy, Id just be going off Google Maps, and that says the best route is through Belgium, France and Switzerland. Then the token system, watering stations, queues.. Oof. Hi Andrew, thanks for all the info! First we were thinking about hire a car do you think its better to travel from milan central to monza central and take the shuttle bus or would you go for a car/recommend another trainstation? Get the airport train from Malpensa to Milano Porto Garibaldi, then a second train from there to Monza (or Biassono on Sunday). Firstly a thanks as this page has been extremely useful! How long does it typically take to get from the central station in Milan to grandstand 6B? Many thanks for this website. Then its probably another 10min walk (im guessing) to grandstand 6b. Since I was in that area of the track, and I didnt want to repeat the mistake of taking the train from Biassono-Lesmo again, I started to think about alternative options. We are going to Monza this year to support Max and have tickets for grandstand 8b. About one hour, its 4.5km. We are travelling from New Zealand to Monza for the first time. Milan has an efficient Metro system. if the destination doesnt fit their needsOr very often they are raising the fees (x1.5 / x2 times the normal fare). do i need to buy black shuttle tickets online or i can buy them at Monza Stazione or on Monza track on Thursday on a pit walk? Does anyone know if the race day train service stops at Sesto San Giovanni station en route from Milan Centrale? The best way to get to the circuit is by train, from both Milan and nearby cities such as Bergamo. I have been reading the combinations to access the Monza circuit but I would like to ask you because some things are not clear to me. We have General Admission tickets and thought about driving by car to Monza as we need to leave Milan in the evening anyways and I heard about the struggle catching a train/bus back to the city after the race. Dont be in a hurry to leave the circuit after the race, enjoy the atmosphere and wait for the crowds to die down. Hi Marie, you should receive some info from F1 about the location of the ticket office at Monza, but it should be somewhere near the Main Entrance gate (Ingresso A on this map). Many thanks for your reassuring reply. I used this web site to research my first trip to Monza this last weekend, thank you for all the helpful information. I would like to take the train from Milano Centrale to the Biassono Lesmo stop. Whats the best way to get from Monza train station to the closest gate ( gate C I believe)? I want to have a walk on the banking after the F2 race and dont fancy another long walk after that to Monza train station. I have seen the 10 offer but it is only valid for September 9-10, is that right? Is the bus stop right at the train station.. Is this the best route for us. Also silly question but what are general facilities like at the track, ie female toilets, food? Were in stand 6c we plan to get the train to Monsa station then the 221 bus to via Santa Maria del selve .. Then enter at gate B . We are staying in central Milan and have tickets in Alta Velocita C (6c). My seats are in 8A. The Trenord Day pass is valid for travel from all stations in Lombardy to Monza Station (and Biassono-Lesmo station on race day) and costs 13 EUR return per day. Honestly, its been a while since I was in GA at Monza. Thanks mate Black shuttles are free or you have to buy tickets? Lots of support races are happening on Sunday morning if you want to watch those. Regarding going to Monza track on Thursday, I saw there is a bus Z221 from Monza station. Then went to the inside of the track. There is also a special return ticket valid from all stations in Lombardy to Monza or Biassono-Lesmo for 13 euros per day (only worthy if travelling from quite far away, since standard return from Milan to Monza is only 4.8 euros). And if you bought from some other ticket company (like F1.com), I think the entrance where you collect your tickets is Vedano, which is close to Mirabello, but the main circuit entrance with entry sign etc. Hi! Is this too early? Depends where you park, but Gate E is convenient. It is possible to travel from Como to Monza by Train for as little as $ 3.80 or as much as $ 16.73. Ordered our tickets way back and found out today that they wont ship in time, so we are stuck having to pick them up there. You can park in Vedano al Lambro, between via Montegrappa or via Grandi, there are some parks available (arrive early to avoid traffic and to find spots for the car). Its generally not a good idea to drive to Monza as the track near the circuit on race weekend is horrendous. Then from Monza you can use the guideline here above. scan the QR code. If you take the black shuttle bus, I think the walk at the Monza end to 8b will take around 30-45 mins. I know they didnt in 2021 and have been waiting for a thumbs up . Hi Jeff, the good news is that Grandstand 24 is very close to the main circuit entrance. Good luck! Im not sure about ATMs at the track: better to stock up on some cash before you arrive, but Im sure you can pay for merchandise with a card. The most important one is in Vedano al Lambro, and the other one is in Biassono. My friend wants to hire a driver to transport us from Milan to the track all 3 days of the race. When we reached Monza we had a one hour and 45 minute walk to our seats in grandstand 8 due to the amount of people, bottlenecks, security checks, bag searches, ticket scanning and general disorganization. Monza is best known for its Grand Prix motor racing circuit, the Autodromo Nazionale Monza, which hosts the Formula One Italian Grand Prix with a ma . How to get to the Monza Autodrome It is possible to reach the Autodromo Nazionale Monza using different types of public and private transport: car, motorbike, train, plane, bus, taxi. So we walked from the main grandstand area to the black line, and it took forever. What time does the Paddock club party start and finish on Fridays please and would taxis/trains be available afterwards to Milan? 2. Dear Editor team, first of all, this is great page and only one with useful tips how to get to Monza. Definitely recommended when compared to the food & beverage close to the stands 8a with higher prices and long queues. I m looking tickets to 2018 race from 8b or 6a grandstand. Which zone inside the circuit would you recommend sticking to? If this is the case does anyone know where this is likely to be? I can only say thank god I have a son who is an IT genius otherwise I would have been in deep do-do. Came back as late as possible and keep calm. This site is amazing thank you for all you do! We are planning to stay in Como, is it easy enough to get a train from there on race day. The Monza circuit is one of the oldest F1 circuits. With all your knowledge and experience, do you think we will be able to make our flight at Milan Malpensa at 20h40, given the busy roads around the track? This is great :) Trains from Monza Monza to Milan My friend and I will visit Milan for the very first time next weekend. Have you considered leaving the car in the center on Sunday and taking the train to the circuit? Actually you can buy shuttle bus tickets in advance on the Trenord website, only if combined with a return train trip Milan to Monza, for 10 euros per day: Integrated return ticket valid on trains from all stations in Milan to Monza FS and on the bus/shuttle of the Black Line between Monza FS and the Monza Racetrack (Gate G Entrance) Hello! Thanks for all the info Ive followed your advise in buying tickets (6c) and very much looking forward to Monza 18! do not work. Apparently you can prebook them on line but I cant find a website for this. Depends on what time your flight is. Second, well be staying in Milan for the race this week and likely be heading to the circuit via a combo of train / bus / shuttle. do we have to go to Monza station because is there one entrance or do we have to walk somewhere else with general admission tickets. Did you try to buy these tickets for 11 September? Hi, thanks so much for your effort. Facilities should be ok but dont expect luxury. WOW. We are coming to the race September 2nd and we have a 5 year old and a grandfather (80 years old) that can not walk a lot with us. Were in Praabolica so probably another 20 mins from Gate G i guess. We have tickets for 4 Laterale Sinistra (and really hope to have made good decision). Its really a bit too early. quite a long road from Mezzegra to Monza GP, but very nice to stay on lake! So the train ride to Monza is actually faster, but I've heard the walk from the Monza station to the circuit is a lot longer than from the Biassono-Lesmo station. Hi, I will go for first time to an Grand Prix this year at Monza. I really couldnt comment on your bicycle plan. . Tickets cost just 1 per trip or you can buy a ticket valid for one day (3.50) or two days (5) which is also valid for trams and buses in the metro area (but not for the trains to the circuit). More info in Trackside. We have tickets in 6C. Authorities began looking for land to create a circuit to test their cars and demonstrate to the rest of the world their superiority through sporting success. Ask a fellow passenger or have Google Maps open on your smartphone. The approach to Parabolica is good, inside the circuit. The tickets from Milano Centrale or Milano Porta Garibaldi should actually include the shuttle bus tickets at the other end. I have tickets to the Ascari stand and was wondering if I can enter any of the entrances to get there? Hi Craig, please contact Gootickets. The metro has four underground lines and trains run from 6am to midnight. Massive, but generally moving queues. My group is going to Monza this year we are staying in Milan and sitting in 6b. Is it too far and we shouldnt go? Will i be able to take my son in with us? Probably yes. Refer to http://www.trenord.it or http://www.trenitalia.it for the timetables in advance. Sounds good! Takes 8 mins. Milan ( near Centrale train station) to track. Thank you again. Does anyone have the correct website to buy prepaid parking? Hi Lieve, I wouldnt hire a car to get to the circuit on Saturday/Sunday. Id prefer to stay somewhere with facilities for the weekend (showers and loos). But consider taking the train on race day, otherwise you will get stuck in traffic. But bus and train are fine ways to travel. Hi whats the easiest way to get to Gate G using train. Craig. Any tips for us for easiest way to get to monza on sunday(we have tickets for all 3 days but we will spend some time in Milano) and which gate is closest to our seats? Purchase official tickets for Monza Circuit Experience show in MONZA E DELLA BRIANZA at 23/03/2023 9:00 AM on TicketOne.it All other days, you need to park your motorbike in one of the parking areas outside the park. Not sure if it makes any difference on what station we can go too but we will be staying very close to Milan Central station. From there, you can walk to Gate G, which is close to Grandstand 21c. Thanks for always commenting and answering so many questions on this site! Then, as has happened before, they will likely be allowed IN to the circuit by the gate staff when the race is over, in order to get onto the track for the podium ceremony. You wont be able to drive on roads close to the circuit itself on race weekend due to traffic restrictions, but there are plenty of parking areas dotted around Monza park. You will be asked at the circuit entrances: a valid identity document; We parked our bikes close to Ingresso C and after some queuing entered the circuit area. Races have been organised on this circuit since 1922. Cheers, very good site! The rain sucked big time and after we walked the fun center, decided to catch the buses back to the train. We must have arrived just after a train had arrived and we went to the back of the queue whilst others arriving by car or taxi later just joined the front. As for other tips, I recommend you visit Ostello Costa Alta, which is really close to your grandstand. Hi Jerry, best idea is to take the train to Monza train station, then the Black shuttle bus and walk. How would you recommend getting to Grand Prix in Monza from Como. You have to validate the tickets on the yellow boxes on the platform. What is the Best option departuring from the AirPort? Are these time estimates off or is taking the black shuttle really saving about 10 minutes or so of walking (again not including wait time to get on the shuttle)? Im staying near MLP airport and hope to rely on the express to get to and from Milan and then to Monza. Then get the Black shuttle bus from the train station to the circuit. Return tickets cost 4.80. Let me know if you know anything about it. Find station information, search timetables and book tickets to and from Monza. I need to warm all foreigner visitors who is planning to attend the rest of event over the weekend. You can buy your ticket when you get on the shuttle and you will be given a coloured wristband to wear for your return journey. Your email address will not be published. Definitely the experience in General Admission has declined rapidly in recent years with the higher attendance. (Brown area, but very busy during this last years). If you need any info on either the city or the trains just let me know. Thank you for your good information. And finally Trenord offers for the Monza GP an extraordinary train service for 5 euros on Sunday only. Is it better to get the traintickets in advance or just buy them at the trainstation? Train from Bergamo and then the Black shuttle sounds like a good plan. From Friday-Sunday, the black shuttle will be best one to take for your grandstand. Do you have any suggestions for private transport? Most carparks cost around 25 per day on race weekend and are serviced by shuttle buses which will take you to the circuit entrance. But not a lot of people do that. also going to the Grand Prix on Sunday. It was only a 4 carriage train. I noticed some people following the same path, and at the station you could see F1 fans filling the platform in reasonable numbers, no crowd control necessary, and everyone was able to get a seat on that long double decker train. I really thought the offer would be valid for all three days. Hi Johan, 6C is a good stand! I was thinking it would need to be train and bus. Is it worth driving to the track and parking or is there another option thats more efficient? Thanks for the information, by the way, very helpful! Followed the links re the car parks, but its in Italian! Get a later flight or even better, fly out on Monday morning. Make sure you wear some comfortable shoes and go explore Monza, its a magical place. If you dont hang around too long after the race, it may be quicker to get back into the city, then you will have no problems with traffic (in theory). I can suggest you via Montegrappa or via Grandi. We have grandstand 1 tickets for Sunday, booked through F1.com that we are picking up from the track. Hi Paul. the Green Pass (EU Digital Covid Certificate); Driving. Id recommend getting a flight leaving no earlier than 9pm. You cannot buy in advance, only on the day. Is there any ticket kiosk in milan or monza? Also this website provides far better information than any of the staff at the track! Be some time before we are back. The black shuttle drops you off at the eastern end of the circuit. }); Approximately 20-30 minute walk after getting off the bus to get to your seats at Parabolica, but the park is nice for walking! Hi Neil, optimistically a taxi shouldnt be too expensive from Monza station to the circuit, its only a few km.
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