Sincerely, obesity is defined in terms of the proportion of body fat associated higher risk of illness. The only thing she is qualified for at Starfleet Academy is as a 23rd century specialist. Maybe having had to step up to the plate before she was ready I think she intellectually knows that she didnt fail, and that its not her fault that Osyraa took the ship, she didnt have all the information, but I still think the fact that that she took command and somehow lost the ship would be an enormous blow to her confidence and make her question a lot of stuff. As a Black girl, I felt I was supposed to look this way. What accent? Do you see that tension? That is definitely not a true statement. So. I have to agree. I always felt that I wanted hips and a butt. Not everyone is skinny and not everyone likes skinny. She could of made it what we call General American/mid-Atlantic to neutralize it a little. Shes beyond perfect with her line delivery. Keep up with theStar Trek Universe at TrekMovie.com. It included a lot of the old characters too like Chakotay, BElanna, Tuvok with a lot of new characters. Thats not a leader. Like a lot of people, she pivoted and found herself in a new role as teacher. Im not surprised people making mean comments, some people will find whatever they can that they know will upset everyone and say it. I love how Disco has put the human back into the human experience. Samarkand? Im sorry youve had to experience that and I strongly urge you to take what comfort you can from whatever source you can, regardless of how other people feel about that source. The doctor was usually the therapist. By: TrekMovie.com Staff But admittedly, its pretty close. Saru would then recognize the potential in her, give her opportunities to build her self esteem and confidence, and wed get a good arc that doesnt seem forced like it does now. Like damn the guy's 90 ffs give him a break. I keep reading she shouldnt be in Starfleet because she is socially and emotionally immature. Its just lazy writing. Im relieved to say I have no idea how that feels, and its something I cant even stomach thinking about, frankly. WTF this is why Ive been following Star Trek since the original in 1967 when I saw Nichelle Nichols. Shes not going anywhere. It would definitely be great if Rhys was promoted to first officer. However, even if the Academy series moves forward, it likely wouldnt go into production in 2022 or even 2023, leaving plenty of time for Tilly to appear in season five of Discovery. At New York Comic Con, TrekMovie participated in some group interviews with members of the cast and crew,. I KNOW, people say they are great, I was too focused on Star Trek when those were airing, but I might try and give the original show a shot one day. I like Tilly but shes not my favourite character. However, in the same interview she also talked about how some fans have not been so supportive in season three: I noticed theres definitely been an uptick in body-shaming towards me and Tilly this season, which was harrowing because Im a person, I have a history and bullying is totally a part of that. Fans need to stop being rude and act like gentlemen for once. ;). The laughing, alone, is far more damaging and shameful and disgusting and disrespectful than obesity itself. Overcome her issues. Not sure what the formal CBS/Paramount process is for publishing that kind of stuff, but the story was so detailed that I genuinely wanted to begin looking into it. The actors are not slaves to the fans or public opinion. You cant be a Star Trek fan and also be a racist or a body shamer. Take me to the stars and tell me a story. Patrick Kwok-Choon is the only one of the bridge officers that doesnt have another regular acting or producer/director role. No one of my Trekkie friends, growing up with TNG watch this anymore. I have only heard of the details a few months ago thanks to a video that TrekCentral (amazing YouTube channel) made about it for Prodigy theorizing a connection. Neither she nor anyone else with common sense is celebrating obesity. And more importantly, were back to exploring both the prime universe and 24th century again we havent done since Voyagers final season, which was 20 years ago this year! Against all odds, shes in Starfleet and thriving. Well said, Edward. David Ajala: Yeah. It is not OK to be overweight. I wanted to be bigger and I spent much of my childhood, adolescence and even into my young adulthood doing all kinds of things to get bigger. She laughs at the memory. Because she symbolizes the Trekkies, geeks, nerds. I see those things and they hurt me because Im a person. Find more stories on theStar Trek Universe. Nice girl but still jostling with Burnham as the most annoying character on the show. Its one thing thats definitely been improved upon by the more recent stuff. Learning? . The immaturity of body shaming anyone is hateful and unacceptable. The last novel just came out last year (where does she find the time lol). So I think we pick up with her after some time has passed since the events of that season, but shes still sort of not really sure what to make of it, and everything that used to be really comfortable isnt sitting as comfortably as it used to if that makes sense. Two Kelpians and a Disco Kenny (Zero Kelpians were harmed during this shoot. . I just hope now that she has been made captain, all her baggage will be finally gone. Mack is one of the core group of Trek authors going back to shortly before Nemesis. Conversational, easy to listen to and understand every point. | March 22, 2022 | Before we move on to SuKal this Thursday, there are still some bits to catch up on from the Terra Firma arc of Star Trek: Discovery. My suspicion is they farm this out to sweatshops somewhere in Asia. Mary Wiseman as Captain Killy in Terra Firma, Part 2. Season four of Star Trek: Discovery arrives on Thursday, November 18 on Paramount+. In this week's episode of Star Trek: Discovery season four, we saw Tilly leaving her crew and heading to the academy in order to foster young minds. The episode, titled "All Is Possible,". Its very likely shell be on the Star Fleet Academy show if she continues as a regular/recurring character on a Trek show. There have been moments where they tried to do that, but like everything else on Discovery where self-doubt and emotional scenes of worry in darkly-lit rooms need to be front and center, they always seemed to bring Tilly back to spazzing out because she was nervous about whether she can do it before being put on a mission. Why did they do that? Martin-Green says she has come to accept changes in her body, especially after the birth of her second child shortly before production on season three: With my first pregnancy I bounced back without trying (which is a crime, by the way, that we expect women to do that after birth rather than focus on healing). No character like her would ever have graduated Starfleet. Fortunately, more than 30 years ago I was encouraged to focus on the health aspects of eating well and training hard and not the aesthetics. I think the character would have been much better served if Tillys quirks were something that changed as the character grew over the seasons. The ships shrink should not be a Command level position and in fact would make sense to be on the CMOs staff. Mary Wiseman (born July 30, 1985) is an American actress. But my initial annoyed response to DISCO in particular, well, Ive let go of that in the past two years, as life is too short to get all worked-up angry over personal quibbles with a tv show. Miss Wiseman F those fake Trekkies/Treksters keep acting your ass off. She opted that she had a different calling within the world of teaching and, in the end, she decided that she wanted to chase that feeling. But its the elephant we have in the room, these days. She makes it all look so easy. Have to disagree. Happy to have your wit, enthusiasm, & talent as part of the franchise. Like maybe he would be way too codependent or something? Speaking to Glamour UK, Sonequa Martin-Green revealed that she has dealt with body image issues too: Back in the mid-to-late eighties, early nineties, everything I saw, with hip hop, was all curvy, curvy, big butt, she recalls. However, Tilly's rise to Lieutenant in Thursday's episode of Star Trek: Discovery did not invoke feelings of joy. Personally I would put Barclay and Trois Mom in that group too, but not sure recurring characters belong with regulars in this race. And I know Chakotay was also Captain on Voyager in those books as well. Everybody loves Tilly. Except the writers of course. At New York Comic Con, TrekMovie participated in some group interviews with members of the cast and crew, one of which was with the pair-up of Mary Wiseman (Tilly) and David Ajala (Book). Its very possible Mary Wiseman wanted off the show, or needed a bit of a break. There are admittedly quite a few other Starfleet officers Scotty and Riker, for example who prove that being chunky is still a thing in the future. He has been part of the Litverse writers room run by Pocket Books and knows not only Beyers works but the books written by others in great detail, and across all eras. Great interview, Dawn. Tilly got fat, that is inexcusable. So many reasons to be critical of Disco plot holes, awful sense of morals, missed opportunities, etc. Her character Tilly is not my favorite on the show but body shaming is a shameful act by itself. Jack perhaps you were at the Dave Chappelle protest screaming Judas, you are starting to sound like the type who gets sensitive over everything. Her character of Cadet Tilly in Star Trek Discovery is warm and positive. So her appearances ended up not being 100% awful. See more at the Paley Center for Media Arts' Star Trek: Discovery Fight for the Future exhibit in Los Angeles, now through July 7th. The reed-thin part sometimes involves unhealthy behaviors. Theres a difference between celebrating obesity and accepting individual human beings, treating them as human beings, and not targeting them specifically for emotional harassment. I agree, the writing, character development, and story telling needs to improve. I would expect more from the Star Trek crowd, which is usually quite enlightened. Tilly accepts herself but she rises to challenges, leads in a crisis, is there for her friends but still explores what she wants for *herself*, and mentors others to help them grow! I hope that Wiseman uses that info into the future because it does work for fat burning and muscle building. We use cookies to ensure that we give you the best experience on our website. David Ajala: The first thing that comes to mind, is maybe hes a borderline narcissist, vry egotistical, and self-absorbed. Personally I dont find that inspiring in any way whatsoever. I dont believe any of the other series had a therapist on the bridge. As an actor of 20 years myself I can say for SMG that her acting ability is affected by her accent and delivery due to her accent . I like me. It is constantly exposing the never ending struggle of smart and talented woman of color. I would encourage her to do the same. Mention one thing or person loved by EVERYBODY. But then again Im not a troll. I keep hearing the word heartthats the poorest excuse yet. In fact, it says far more about the body-shamers than it does about those being body-shamed. That is assuming the this Starfleet Academy show is set in the 32nd century. Be sure to watch Mary Wiseman "Killying it" as Ensign Sylvia Tilly on Star Trek: Discovery. When Mary Wisemans Lt. Sylvia Tilly left the USS Discovery for a job at the new Starfleet Academy in the fourth episode of season four, it was promised she would be back. Mary Wiseman is a good actress but even with that, if Star Trek Discovery was shot in 80s or 90s producers would probably force her to go on a diet or even fire her. She cant control her weight. Picard is the third Kurtzman Production. Those b@stards, however, totally killed Landry )Cuddles with @actordougjones and @davbentom These men are nothing short of hereoic in prosthetics all day e'reday. None of those thinks make a lick of sense. Contents 1 Early life 2 Starfleet career 2.1 USS Discovery 2.1.1 The war 2.1.2 Post-war 2.1.3 32nd century 3 Personal relationships 3.1 Friendships Between 2011 through 2015, she attended Juilliard School's Drama Division, where one of her students was future Star Trek: Discovery actress Mary Chieffo. It is also available on Netflix in 190 countries around the world. Lol. Just a heads up (even more way off topic), for those who liked SG , IMO the Atlantis book Legacy series was quite good, telling the story of what happened after the finale. I think that in a world thats so repressed and violent, violence becomes these peoples only outlet for pleasure and release. All are different. From what Ive read, having her on the bridge because of her betazed abilities was what Roddenberry had in mind. None of us are and its okay. She is best known for starring as Sylvia Tilly in the Paramount+ science fiction drama series Star Trek: Discovery (2017-present). Not with DSC, not with ANYTHING. Not Mary Wisemans fault; the writers fault. Someone with a lack of intelligence throws a race card at every debate. When a show blankets the airwaves with hugs and confessionals and cheering it tends to make any subtler moments stand out far less, but this is also not a subtle show to begin with. If anything is being celebrated, or, at the very least, encouraged, its simple human decency and not judging people by physical attributes alone. American actress Mary Wiseman was born on July 30, 1985. You two are Michaels boyfriend and best friend, so does Michael becoming captain create any new tension in season four? (80's for ya) 1:15. In fact now I think of it, Book aside everyone has an American accent. Proceed accordingly. Barclay was another unrealistic character that never shouldve made it in to Starfleet. I let go of my preconceptions about what star trek is. It is incredibly bad and is a publicly dangerous message to be sending. Therefore, I love her. When all evidence points to her character not being loved or even liked (the actress is fine; shes been poorly handled by the writers (Michelle Paradise). Or are you only a troll if you criticize something about Discovery? It always cracks me up when people say that they hate Tilly. It felt like an organic exit, and with the way that others said goodbye to her, it . Its not SMGs fault of course, its just the way she has be written throughout the series. Her message was not that its okay to be overweight (and shes really not that overweight, nor should it really matter), but simply thats it okay to be her flaws and all. The Berman era had specific ideas about things like accents and music that kind of locked it into something fairly homogeneous. I keep reading that no character like hers should not be in starfleet, yet she is. It really doesnt fit in the century they are in. I think that she is one of the go-to people when there is hard science stuff to crack. CBS/Paramount+ For Wiseman's Tilly, the danger and near-loss of all the cadets, including Adira (Blu del Barrio) forces her. That is not anything to diss. Well second most after Burnam , she was fine in season 1 and 2.past 2 seasons theyve rushed her character developmentsame with michael.the vulcan minded human became human real fast. 42 comments so far. This is rare case were I actually agree with Lorma. 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And it all happened OFF SCREEN! We use cookies to ensure that we give you the best experience on our website. Discovery may have just said goodbye to one of its crew, but don't worry: She'll be back. Thats the thought I had last season, when they had the perfect chance to wirte out Burnam (I believe it was Reunification III or the one after that) and they just didnt follow through at the end. You made very good points and I do agree. And doesnt that just make the point about the difference between fitness and apparent chunkiness or curveyness. It feels the only reason was to have a non-binary character, which after a few episodes ended up fading into the background with the rest of the furniture anyway. I notice that for whatever reason certain words will trigger the language to switch to French on my phone, and then I have to go back and correct everything. Yes, I like both Barclay and Tilly. Btw, I really liked the scene of Tilly and Burnham running back in S1 and eating protein, carbs and fat post workout. but it looks like she did simply did it because she was her friend and room mate. Star Trek: Discovery threw a shocker into its latest episode as Lieutenant Sylvia Tilly decided to leave the Discovery crew. Theyve written Tilly as just the straight oh theres Tilly for the jokes. She hasnt mentored anyone except in one episode. And with Troi being a betazoid, thats why she was on the bridge. Internationally, the series is available on Paramount+ in Australia, Latin America and the Nordics, and on Pluto TV in Austria, France, Germany . I would just be happy if Rhys got more than three lines an episode lol. I LOVE the future! And so she will be part of this universe and this world for many years to come. I agree with you on principle as far at this being fine on a fictional Star Trek show. Sharing? And to have somebody step in and defend you is really meaningful. Overall, I like the fun character of Tilly (too bad the writers room made her first officer). She let go in S4 of her parents expectations and embraced a new purpose. And we saw the results of all that. Shaming is one thing. DSC has a wonderful cast and a neat diverse set of characters. By the way, could of isnt English. In season one and early season two, I was finding it credible as a case of someone who had unresolved PTSD and was unmoored from the culture that had encouraged her to supress her trauma. Yes! Im sorry but what youve described about Tilly is like something out of a Nickelodeon teen high school drama. She was annoying to me, and the crew gave her a lot of leeway. I keep saying this but its a great time to be a Star Trek fan again! It makes sense there would be and that they be a part of the medical team. (laughs). At the end of season three, I felt that she became captain not because she had earned it, but because the time had run out on the series plan for her promotion. Look at the progression of Nog on DS9 from Quarks juvenile-delinquent nephew in season 1 to Starfleet Ensign in the Dominion War on how writers can make you believe in a characters growth and progression. You can start with those or the later books in the Time to sequence without significant confusion. The message she is sending how? She is relatable and human and wonderful. I guess making Tilly first officer isnt anywhere close to ridiculous as making KT Kirk a Captain who was still a cadet and had probably spent 2 weeks in space before he got the jobbut its pretty damn close. I have this image in my head of the EPs saying to Mack that theyd like species that havent been main characters in other shows and asking him to give a list of options for a big and strong species, a species without a bianary gender etc. the only one worth saving.. quite possibly the most irritating character in Trek history. [laughs] Everybody loves Tilly. Tilly, played by Mary Wiseman on Star Trek Discovery is not pregnant. After his first episode or two, I was done with Barclay and was frustrated when he came back, and especially when he showed up on Voyager. This modern trend of celebrating obesity is what is wrong with American society, and is another reason why the rest of the world laughs at America. That does so much emotional damage to a personbut it also says a lot about those doing the body-shaming. I have nothing against Mary Wiseman. I think others that make such claims are having their own feel feels hurt or nostalgia rattled. Please dont ban me!). Harry wasnt annoying watching him was just sad :-D. Im glad for you that you didnt find him annoying. They told us and a handful of other outlets what to expect for their characters and more. The following contains spoilers from Star Trek: Discovery's Season 4 finale. This is why Discovery is polarising and this is why people four seasons in still dislike Burnham and Tilly as characters. Make it make sense! His Voyager appearances were also horrid. All those wonderful things that dont make you a good human being. Key difference in thinking, and it makes all the difference in the big picture! Typical. Biography Respectfully, to anyone somehow offended by that. You know, like a psychotic murderer? They seemed to only be limited by what that particular script called for that week. Other ships having counselors in the TNG era was mentioned. Events in David Macks two books towards the end of that series ( A Time to Kill and A Time to Heal) have a profound impact throughout the rest of the Litverse. But respect is always earned and never enforceable. In the latest Star Trek: Discovery episode, Sylvia Tilly ( Mary Wiseman) was tasked with .
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