The debate also continues elsewhere on this site as we occassionally post this verse to see if we get any different comments see July 2009 and also in Jan 2010 . He became even better known after his columns were nationally syndicated beginning in 1930, and became known as the "Dean of American Sports Writers". })(); //]]>. ! With your permission Ill add it to this post plus post it on our facebook page etc. Please send me a photo of the plaque. As such, it can be served by no apologies or defenses, Fountain wrote, and deserves damnation less than it deserves understanding.. Henry Grantland Rice was born in 1880 in Murfreesboro, Tenn., and opted for journalism after graduating from Vanderbilt in 1901 and playing for the Vanderbilt baseball and football teams. var e = document.createElement("script"); e.src = "https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/41mrkPcyPwL.js"; document.head.appendChild(e); I love his writing about The Four Horsemen of Notre Dame. Please send photo plus any more information. Post navigation. var gptAdSlots = gptAdSlots || []; Let Courage call the signals as you keep on coming back. So were the teachers who taught the small children, the doctors who tended the sick, the congressmen who made the laws and the jurists who administered justice. Hi Dean, this sounds amazing. I have an original of the poem given to me by my Mother in 1949 that I cherish. You will be inspired! BUT HOW YOU PLAYED THE GAME. The Best Poem Of Henry Grantland Rice Game Called 1910 version Game Called. This exact version was framed and hung on the wall in my parents bedroom. The plot thickens. His brothers were much older than himI suppose the poem was printed sometime in the time between 1910 and 1925. document.getElementsByTagName("head")[0].appendChild(stylesheet); That determines for you what degree of success The plaque belonged to my wifes grandfather, Orson Ryan, whose son Kent played football for the Lions we believe the plaque was obtained about 1908. He won the 2009 Pulitzer Prize for his biography American Lion: Andrew Jackson in the White House, wrote a celebrated biography of Thomas Jefferson and was chosen by the Bush family to write George H.W. A rent collector tackled him and threw him for a loss. In the great game of Life its the purpose to win, He writes not that you won or lost This puts it in the late 1910-20s at the latest. Rice was posthumously awarded the 1966 J. G. Taylor Spink Award by the Baseball Writers' Association of America. He preached this the whole time we were at campToo bad most professional athletes dont have a clue what it means,,, And this is how Meacham explained, in a segment this week on MSNBC, his standard for distinguishing those who should and shouldnt be held aloft: Was the person or the institution being memorialized ultimately devoted to the pursuit of a more perfect union? thanks again. The piece hung first in my grandmothers TO WRITE AGAINST YOUR NAME and will invite anyone to send more information. To write against your name, He marks-not that you won or lost-. My Mom taught me a poem when I was young very similar to this. But in the 1930s so were the rest of the sportswriters. In dramatic lore they are known as Famine, Pestilence, Destruction and Death. So were the policemen and the shopkeepers and the farmers and the factory owners. I have a Buzza Motto "Playing The Game" poem credited to J. Two of these poems I cannot find anywhere..It looks like Mr. Delong was editing for someone. 1 November 1880 in Murfreesboro, Tennessee; d. 13 July 1954 in New York City), sportswriter who was the most powerful and far-reaching voice in U.S. sports for nearly half a century, and who first said it mattered "not that you won or lost, but how you played the game." If anyone does find the full poem pls send it to me as we really need to publish it here also. Before leaving for service in World War I, he entrusted his entire fortune, about $75,000 (the equivalent of around $1.4 million today), to a friend. He writes not that you won or lost but how you played the Game. Thanks very much for the information. Thanks again Peggy Reynolds Dudley some fine Irish heritage there, methinks! The difference between the two is that, while Russell also had a national presence, he stayed in Nashville for his entire career, serving as sports editor for The Banner from 1930 until the paper closed in 1998. Im sure I read it first at Harpeth Hall in high school. "Alumnus Football" Grantland Rice Read more quotes from Grantland Rice Share this quote: Like Quote Recommend to friends Friends Who Liked This Quote To see what your friends thought of this quote, please sign up! Someone is sure to lose. That is not an ideological point. It had a huge impact on me and I have talked about it with other classmates and teammates. My father who was a writer at the Nashville Banner also told me about what a great writer Grantland Rice was. Stella Maris is where the boys in the 1972 Andes accident went to school, and it is that spirit that helped them survive the 72 days on the mountain. If you insert poem into our search box youll see some beautiful replies. She is now passing this on to her own grandson. Henry Grantland "Granny" Rice (November 1, 1880 July 13, 1954) was an early 20th-century American sportswriter known for his elegant prose. Rices memoir includes accounts of hanging out with Ruth in his Chicago hotel room the night before the called shot home run in the 1932 World Series against the Cubs; hunting wild turkey with his good friend Dan McGugin, the legendary Vanderbilt football coach; and drinking with Rockne at his home the night before the 1928 Notre Dame-Army game Rockne told Rice he was thinking about telling his team before the game about the words of George Gipp on his deathbed in 1920, to ask a Notre Dame team at some point to win just one for the Gipper.. So were the athletes and the actors and the fans who came to cheer them. page: {requestId: "PTPHS3MESDKWDQ4ZK9G7", meaningful: "interactive"} That when the Master Referee scores against our name, it wont be whether we won or lost, but how we played the game.. Brugh roomed with Grandland Rice when they were students at Vanderbilt Law School. Not long ago I questioned the author of the poem as I had a copy that my father gave me on my bedroom wall that I felt predated the life of the American credited with it. And more than all, when you are thrown or tumbled with a crack, Link >> https://www.pinterest.com/pin/487092515924974343/, Welcome to the conversation. That he could make his distance through a ten-foot granite wall. The plot thickens. Anyways thank you once again. Their real names are: Stuhldreher, Miller, Crowley and Layden. [11], His sense of honor can be seen in his own actions. [6] Vanderbilt coach Dan McGugin in Spalding's Football Guide's summation of the season in the SIAA wrote, "The standing. Rice Im pretty sure wasnt part of that., Theres no record that he was. Is keep on bucking Failure till youve worn the piker out!. M.K. It wont be whether we won or lost, In todays dollars, thats about $1.5 million. Where he would buck to glory in the swirl of Lifes big game. Post a comment. Will be scored to your credit, my son. And some of the things Rice wrote during his career are simply racist. On his return from the war, Rice discovered that his friend had lost all the money in bad investments, and then had committed suicide. Previous. Such qualities are the bedrock of the game, and the Lions of the Fifties were the epitome of those values. This was taken from an article in the Independent news paper which your father might enjoy. He was my daddys hero, basically.. In fact, this link opens up a few other sources. Even as he rests in peace, Brother Eamonn Chato ODonnell is still triggering discussions about the great scorekeeper. googletag.pubads().enableSingleRequest(); There is another story here. Give Vanderbilt University a nod, along with Chattanooga and the words of a Pulitzer Prize-winning author, for clarity on the intensified assault on Confederate glorification. It has actually generated several streams of thought as I opened it up in a few different blog posts. Many thanks for your clarification. I just wrote without thinking. He and his writing are among the reasons that the 1920s in the United States are sometimes referred to as the "Golden Age of Sports". The original version, which appears above on the right side of the screen, of the poem was reprinted in "The Fireside Book of Baseball" in 1956. He must have been hard as nails, a fantastic player as well as as a gentle and kind father to read you, or quote you this beautiful verse. Bushs biography in 2015. [3], Rice attended Montgomery Bell Academy and Vanderbilt University in Nashville, where he was a member of the football team for three years, a shortstop on the baseball team, a brother in the Phi Delta Theta fraternity, and graduated with a BA degree in 1901 in classics. I am 80 years old and have a framed wall poem by Mr. Kelly most likely has a framed motto published by The Buzza Co., who also published under Craftacres the name of their building in Minneapolis, from 1925. Thank you for the correction. Keep Coming Back Incidentally, I read the verse to 60 Year 5 students (aged 9) yesterday and they loved it. Meanwhile, does anyone know, for sure, who wrote these words? Kevin Blackistone, Washington Post columnist and University of Maryland journalism professor, wrote in an email that Rice and his peers of that time promoted outwardly, or tacitly, the racist segregation of sport., It wasnt until Lester Rodney in the mid-(19)30s for the socialist paper The Daily Worker started challenging sport to tear down the color barriers theyd erected in step with Jim Crow laws, Blackistone said of the catalyst for change. googletag.cmd = googletag.cmd || []; Best wishes, Paul, John, thank you so much. Keep coming back, and though the world may romp across your spine, Is it just one verse then Robert? And you always were doing your best! You remember the poem from your childhood education with the Christian Brothers. B. Downie and art by Lee Mero. TO PLAY THE GAME. But how we played the game. Jim McCarthy, captained Munster and Ireland and played with the Lions. Where only those can make the grade who have the Uphill Heart. Perhaps you might email me the photo and Ill then post it for you. Dad regularly uses this quote. At Vanderbilt, a four-year scholarship named for Rice and former colleague and fellow Vanderbilt alumnus Fred Russell is awarded each year to an incoming first-year student who intends to pursue a career in sportswriting. According to an exerpt from http://www.library.vanderbilt.edu The picture above poem is the cottage in a wreath of embroidered flowers, This was in my grand parents home in New Brunswick Canada. Certain steroids, used properly, can cure certain diseases." (Canseco 3). It was not his first golf event, but it was the one that seemed to pull him toward the game.[8]. Ive yet to find the full poem .but pls ignore Sheetzs Amendment: He wonders what kind of records Satchel Paige might have broken, had he been given the opportunity. It is encased in a frame that is in rough shape and held together with masking tape. Meanwhile the Independent newspaper (11 October 2007) endorsed this spirit of sportsmanship (and your father in particular): My poor Grandmashe raised those boys by herself during the depression. [20] It operated for a little more than four years until being shuttered by ESPN on October 30, 2015, several months after Simmons's departure.[21]. Hard to say. If Competition trips you up or lands upon your eye, Thank you so much for sending this in. An ignorant man follows public opinion." Grantland Rice tags: decision , decision-making , decisions 5 likes Like "The flame of the inn is dim tonight, Too many vacant chairs. No one may dare accuse, Bill had the speed-Bill had the weight-Bill never bucked in vain; Robert, thank you very much for this new angle to this discussion which has been going on for a few years on this site (see also other discussion for an additional discussion). Have enjoyed the thread! The world is but an open road-until we find, one day, That is fascinating. Hell write not that you won or lost In 1914 he began his Sportlight column in the New York Tribune. Many thanks John. In dramatic lore . This was part of a chapter titled The Negro Race, and Rice spends most of it praising black athletes of his day, particularly Louis. As usual, he had astounding access. , This is great to hear from another source (New Brunswick Canada). return null; (function () { } That was in the early part of the last century, well before 1941. There we learned the English language, Religion, and all the other signatures. From Grantland Rice oldned Uncategorized August 29, 2022 1 Minute "When One Great Scorer comes to write against your name, He marks not that you won or lost, but how you played the game." } Steroids seems to be what he really . His tackling was ferocious and his bucking was a dream. Your grandfather Mr. Brugh, roomed with Grantland Rice. Is the fact that you stood the test. Part of it's percentage, and the rest is guarantee. Not sure about Newbolt. //= 2; // retina display And news writers. Click on the title: Paris the perfect setting for reunion of Invincible Lions, One South African journalist wrote: South Africa owes a manifold debt to the British Isles rugby touring team. if (window.csa) { Im curious about the possible Irish origin. On the rare occasion a white man wasnt the subject, the subject was liable to inspire ghastly doses of bigotry. The Grantland Rice Bowl, a college bowl game named in his honor, was played from 1964 to 1977. Centering around the life and times of the revered American sportswriter Grantland Rice (1880-1954), How You Played the Game takes us back to those magical days of sporting tales and mythic heroes. it is very old, and hung on my grandmothers wall when my father was a child. [2] His grandfather Major H. W. Rice was a Confederate veteran of the Civil War. if (isRetina) { Money everywhere they turn from morning to the night RICE, Grantland ( b. But one day, when across the Field of Fame the goal seemed dim, } catch (err) { B. Downie and art by Lee Mero. I found my poem in a bargain bin in an old thrift shop. May I enter the discussion on who wrote those final lines of Rices epic poem. Its hard to imagine anyone in this racket more universally beloved, too. Would you know of the full source where and when it was first published etc.? _Q: [] The winning is all up to you Ah yes well spotted Mark. For verification, the complete address is http://www.library.vanderbilt.edu/speccol/research/guides/bios.shtml. He also wrote in The Tumult and the Shouting that Bedford Forrest was one of the great cavalry men, and a hero to his grandfather, who fought for the Confederacy. I didnt bother about it one way or another.. Let every games end find you still upon that battle line "ObfuscatedMarketplaceId": "A1PQBFHBHS6YH1" ~ Paul. I was born in England at the beginning of WWII..my grandfather quoted the poem by J.B. Downie when I was just a small girl. For when the One Great Scorer comes to write against your name He writes not tat you won or lost But how you played the game. googletag.cmd.push(function() { Thanks again. Also feel free to use the poster it may inspire others! a[a9]._Q.push([c, r]) } Christmas 1927" With the Grantland Rice name in this thread, I thought I would throw this curveball (hahahahaha )Lee Mero married Kathryn Rice in 1920!!! Pass it on. } else { My parents too had a small metal plaque on the wall with those famous words thereon circa 1925, Well George. What of their honesty, the way in which they represented their countries and enhanced the great values of their sport? This is the challenge of judging a revered figure from a century ago in todays terms. [10], The passage added great import to the event described and elevated it to a level far beyond that of a mere football game. The job at the Tennessean was given to him by former Sewanee Tigers coach Billy Suter, who coached baseball teams against which Rice played while at Vanderbilt. http://www.greatmomentsofsportsmanship.com/not-that-you-won-or-lost-but/ Also have a look in the comments and youll see another Lions player who used to quote this verse to his children a long long time ago. It is wonderful. Play Up! We witness ups and downs in the careers of such legendary . Russell is a huge part of Nashville sports history, and hes on the right side of history. We were all bigots., Carolyn Russell recalls Rice in much the same way as anyone who wrote about Rice did such as Jimmy Cannon, a famously cynical New York sportswriter who wrote of him after he passed in 1954: Granny was a glorious man and the human race is running short of his kind. 35 likes All Members Who Liked This Quote Nicholas 438 books They formed the crest of the South Bend cyclone before which another fighting Army team was swept over the precipice at the Polo Grounds this afternoon as 55,000 spectators peered down upon the bewildering panorama spread out upon the green plain below. Ill post the original Celtic letters version in spread the moment section in a few days. Paul Smith. But how we played the game. This is very interesting. init: function() { David, that is very helpful. Interesting that the name Rice comes up in two contexts Edmund Rice, founder of the Christian Brothers, and Grantland Rice the sportswriter. googletag.pubads().setTargeting("grsession", "osid.66a657b45f57e162fd8222433e96937e"); The full poem is here: For when the one great scorer comes Rice authored a book of poetry, Songs of the Stalwart, which was published in 1917 by D. Appleton and Company of New York. Is there a way I can post a picture of it? He actually took a $20-a-week pay cut to take a job with the New York Evening Mail in 1910.
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